You dont know..

[IllLiterature]

what the fuck your talking about

Heres a little education for you youngsters.

Club songs and party joints etc etc... ARE REAL HIP HOP

If you take a look at the roots, and i mean really look at it.. Rapping started out as party shit.

Hip Hop originated with the dj and the mc as an afterthought almost at first as much as anything just to hype up parties..

Battling began as seeing who could move the crowd more than witty lines. Now admitedly there was a changing of the guard so to speak with the kool moe-busy bee battle that had already been in the works

just remember next time you talk about REAL HIP HOP

it started as nothing more than djs at parties and mcs trying to up and shout out the djs and get the crowd moving

ba di da bang di ba di ba diddy dyddy shit is where we started at and thats still part of it, dancing and partying is a part of music people

thank you for your time

[run]

and thats why hiphop sucks. seriously who actually LIKES listening to the same song over and over again by different artists?

[IllLiterature]

i believe its been said before that everythings been said before

[Essay Real]

Very true Illit - Just these knuckleheads are mad because the "im a hardcore gangsta" image New York rappers tried to dress Hip-Hop to be isn't hot right now, they wanna say hip-hop is gone..


..can't be serious.

[IllLiterature]

pretty much, im just tired of people saying whats "hip hop"

it has phases and different forms like any other largely popular form of music

[Essay Real]

Hip-Hop = Culture

...and the word "Culture" varies in style!

[Chris The Man]

Lol @ you sayin NY tried to dress it up in "Im a gangsta blah blah blah" when gangsta rap started in the West.

[Queenspittah]

Originally Posted by Chris The Man

Lol @ you sayin NY tried to dress it up in "Im a gangsta blah blah blah" when gangsta rap started in the West.

Co'signin^^ True dat. But I think what he tryna say is that a lot of NY rappers be sayin Hip Hop is dead cause errybody ain't on that NY ish no more like it was in the early 90's and before. NY held it down for the early 90's and really birthed some of the illest styles in Hip Hop to date,can't front...but the fact that Hip Hop has many styles that differ from NY rap n tracks doesn't mean that it's dead...

[Lay Low]

^
For Real They saying it's dead cuz it ain't in new york quite as much as it used to be.

[Stevie Wonder]

It's not about NY or the West side.

It's about the culture being slept on by both.

Name one rapper this day in time, that spit on some real shit.

IMO Both sides are getting too commercial.

Everyone wants to be on some punchline, wordplay, shit.

[20/20vis]

True, we do deny some of that club stuff as hip hop sometimes, but times have changed. When you speak of moving the crowd, that was initially the DJ's job. Today, 'moving the crowd' means something totally different. It's all about what gets women's asses shaking in the clubs. We've accepted that as part of hiphop, the only problem is that the market has become so saturated with music like this, that all sounds alike, with little to no originality/creativity to differ from each other. Now, the watered down form of hip hop is what is being presented to the masses, and is an inaccurate representation of what hip hop music, and hip hop culture is all about. The fact that this club music is such a small part of hip hop, combined with the fact that it is the most represented in the mainstream is why we tend to deny this kind of music as real hip-hop.

[Chris The Man]

Budden, Jada, theres quite a few that speak it how it is.

[tdot_hiphop]

Lolol!

[FlameSpitta]

I was wondering if anybody was ever going to realized that party and club music was the origin of hip hop. I just thought I might have been the oldest nigga in here (and I'm still younger than hip hop).

does anybody remember when Redman, Keith Murray, and Erick Serman remade "Rapper's Delight"? That was the shit, they had on the big dookie ropes with the gold name plates(no diamonds). We need more of that shit from todays artist to keep people from forgettin why we have rap music.

[IllLiterature]

Originally Posted by FlameSpitta

I was wondering if anybody was ever going to realized that party and club music was the origin of hip hop. I just thought I might have been the oldest nigga in here (and I'm still younger than hip hop).

does anybody remember when Redman, Keith Murray, and Erick Serman remade "Rapper's Delight"? That was the shit, they had on the big dookie ropes with the gold name plates(no diamonds). We need more of that shit from todays artist to keep people from forgettin why we have rap music.

nah, im old too

and word up on that shit.. i may have to cop me one of them ropes and shit for the first video