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Old 05-07-2006, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why Steve Nash is/is not the MVP

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-The Suns got into the playoffs with a favorable seeding WITHOUT the best power forward in the West (Amare Stoudamire); He got Barbosa, Diaw, and Bell on a status to where they are stars (but not superstars)-who else could've done that? Lastly, he actually made Tim Thomas' name worth mentioning.

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-LeBron deserved it more......that's about it!
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nah man kobe is the true mvp.....

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Word leaked Wednesday morning that Steve Nash will be named this year's MVP. While it won't be officially announced for some time, it looks like it's a done deal. And we think it's absurd.

The fact that Steve Nash is going to win the award isn't the problem. The problem is that Kobe Bryant didn't. Honestly, what more could Kobe have done this season to win the MVP? It's a joke. And what makes the whole thing even more outrageous is that his losing out is clearly personal. To be blunt, he didn't win it because the people with the votes just don't like him. And that's a shame.

Heading into this season, if someone asked you to make a list of what Kobe would have to do in the 2005-06 NBA season to win the MVP, what would you have said? Something like that Kobe would have to show that he's the best player in the NBA and he would have to take that god-awful Lakers team to the playoffs — not an easy thing to do in the Western Conference.

So what did Kobe do? Here are three numbers: 81, 62 and 35.4. The 81-point explosion against the Raptors in January completely eclipsed the fact that he gave the Mavericks 62 in just three quarters a few weeks prior. His 35.4 points per game, easily enough to secure him the league's scoring title, was the eighth-highest single-season scoring average in league history and the most since MJ put up 37.1 points per game back in '87. No. 8 put together two separate streaks this season where he scored 40 or more points in four straight games.

Let's be blunt: Kobe Bryant is clearly the best basketball player in the world.

We've said it so many times: Steve Nash's supporting cast includes Shawn Marion (a guy who should have received some MVP attention) and Boris Diaw (potentially the NBA's Most Improved Player).

But if you substituted any other elite NBA shooting guard for Kobe Bryant and kept that same Lakers supporting cast, L.A.'s season would have been very, very different. Is there any doubt that Los Angeles would have finished with a record that was just as abysmal as that of the Knicks, Raptors or Trail Blazers?

Kobe didn't barely get the Lakers to the playoffs, just scraping out the eighth seed. They finished seventh, were firmly entrenched in the playoff picture for much of the year, and their 45-game win total in the West was more than all but four teams in the Eastern Conference. With complimentary pieces like Chris Mihm, Devean George, Brian Cook and Sasha Vujacic surrounding Kobe, 45 wins in the Western Conference is nothing short of a miracle.

So why no love for Kobe? Like we said earlier, it's strictly personal. There's no other explanation. The writers with the votes just don't like him. They're blurring their feelings about Kobe as a person with how they view him as a basketball player.

We've been hearing all year that Kobe shouldn't win the MVP because he "doesn't make the players around him better." We don't necessarily agree, but if that's what we're basing this on, then by all means, give Steve Nash the "Makes Those Around Him Better Award" and be done with it.

Kobe perfectly fits the two criteria that voters traditionally use when deciding on an MVP: he's the best player in the league and he's invaluable to his team.

Kobe Bryant is the NBA's Most Valuable Player.

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Old 05-08-2006, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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-The Suns got into the playoffs with a favorable seeding WITHOUT the best power forward in the West (Amare Stoudamire); He got Barbosa, Diaw, and Bell on a status to where they are stars (but not superstars)-who else could've done that? Lastly, he actually made Tim Thomas' name worth mentioning.

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-LeBron deserved it more......that's about it!
You actually should kill yourself for this statement.....this opinion is the least fact based one I've ever seen/heard

The best power forward in the west= Amare Stoudamire???? since when??

lmao, Kevin Garnett= Power Forward
Tim Duncan(MVP Candidate)= Power Forward
Elton Brand(MVP Candidate)= Power Forward

and those 3 are western conference stars!!
The first 2 are hands downs BETTER than Amare Stoudamire

ANYWAY.....AMARE STOUDAMIRE IS A CENTER!!! lmao.....ROTFLMAO

Tim Thomas'(who is a forward) name is nowhere near worth mentioning...and how in the fuck did steve nash make Leandro Barbosa better?? when they HARDLY EVER PLAY TOGETHER.....barbosa is steve nash's backup point.....

You just pulled a couple of names out of your ass and put a bunch of other useless words with them didn't you? Thinking you could recycle some shit you heard from the school cafeteria
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amare stoudamire is a power forward....he plays center for the suns b/c he's the best big guy........

plus suns have shawn marion, who is up on par with the mvps, he was kinda frustrated that he was not mentioned for it.....

he has Diaw - most imporved player of the year who is dope as hell......

Lakers have kobe....n nobody........yup n to have a winning season n almsot beat the suns? wow, trade nash for kobe, n the lakers would be under .5
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The lakers would be under .200

lol....but Amare is REGISTERED(whatever you call it) as a Center....Thats his Official Position, people just think he's really a Power forward because he's only 6'10...
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The only one of the 3 you mentioned that can hold a candle to Amare is Duncan. You must not remember what Amare did last year ......and what the Suns had to do without him this year. LET'S LOOK AT MARION; He had to play power forward much of this year and look at what he did this year.

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Old 05-08-2006, 10:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LeBron deserved it based on stats and that run he had the last two months of the season. Plus he proved he is clutch with a few game winners.. and he got past the first round when he was doubted because of inexperience.. even though playoffs dont count towards the argument.. Nash even said he didnt think he'd win.. he said others were deserving..
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Old 05-09-2006, 02:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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True^^

I wanted Lebron to win it so bad...
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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kobe or chauncey... can you honestly argue with that whatever he did as an individual he has led the team to three championship seasons seeing as they will win this year
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same as last year but ...dudes like rasho bell and boris diaw stepped the fuck up...amare will be bench when he returns..

its kobes trophy imo, or lebrons and where the fuck is gilbert arenas mention?
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kobe didn't deserve an mvp award
fuck his point numbers where the fuck the other stats
homo didn't even make it outta the first round

and yes he does have players..tryna say young luke walton ain't good? and lamar fuckin odom isn't good?

maybe they appeared bad this year cuz kobe never passed the rock.....

MVP is who got named MVP
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no shit...but somehow steve nash takes mvps without askin.....cmon, dont tell me ai didnt have that shit last yr!
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Last year Nash deserved it.. this year he didnt.
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I wouldn't have minded if Billups won.

Nash was OK too-NOT MUCH prob with him winning.

LeBron deserved it.

***Marion, should have gotten more consideration too.

BUT NOT KOBE.
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the only one who can hold a candle to Amare is Duncan HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you gotta be joking.
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