Official Post-Draft Discussion Thread.

[Stoic]

Jets get diesel on the O Line, but they didn't draft well after the first round, imo.
Bills make a fool of themselves.
Bush over Williams, Young over Leinart.
Claude Wroten's plummet

tons of topic, crazy draft all around.

[R. Hayze]

Yes it was fucking nuts. Now, I know lienart wasn't going 1st 2nd or 3rd.
But 10th? Im sorry, but just like he was, I was waiting 90 fucking minutes for someone to call his name. I was actually fucking really shocked.

Now , even bigger surprise, was learning the day before, that Reggie Bush wasn't going #1. I was expecting, just like everyone else, him to go 1st for over a year.

That said, I think we(Pats) got a fucking steal of a draft snagging Maroney and Jackson. That's like having 2 mid-late 1st round picks. I was pretty upset when Tye Hill got snagged at like 17, 18 or something, ESPECIALLY since there was talks of New England trading up to number 18. We were so close, and even though we got some explosiveness offensively, we're still fucked in the secondary.

How bout the Saints and Cardinals looking like contenders all of a sudden eh?

[Stoic]

Saints as contenders? Reggie Bush was a real nice pick up and all, but they're still weak on both sides of the line, not to mention they're runningback situation was never really a problem considering they have Deuce. They didn't address the O Line at all, I believe, and they only added like a 4th rounder on the D Line. You really think the draft made the Saints contenders?
The Cardinals are still the cardinals, but now they have a ton of weapons, I'd like to see what happens with this team in a couple of years. Dennie Green is looking to re-create Minnesota's juggernaut offense, but Defense is still gonna be tough.
Yeah, the Pats did make out real well with the draft choices on offense. Dangerous players that they needed, but the secondary is NOT looking good. Can the pats win with an decreasingly stable D every year? Is ty law signed to a team yet? or could the Pats still pick him up for as a band-aid?
I think the Cards and Saints improved more through free agency then the draft itself.

[Mister Official]

Im looking forward to seeing how the Cardinals do this season.. im seeing them running at the playoffs in the 07-08 season.. Leinart slipping wasnt shocking if you watched ESPN leading up to the draft. They had several discussions saying after the Titans picked the next QB would slide. Cutler went high.. 49ers picking V. Davis was smart.. Glad to see the Cleveland Public Schools product D. Whitner go top ten.. even if it was slightly suprising.. Browns.. my home team did aight.. nothing horrible nothing remarkable.. Wimbley will pan out I hope.. and we got another pick out of the deal.. Titans got Young and L. White from USC.. quite a draft for them.. exciting draft.. Cant believe NO didnt trade the number two pick for the #4 pick and the Jets 2nd and 3rd round pick.. idiots.. banking on Bush to be MJ might not work out.. but who knows..

[R. Hayze]

Originally Posted by Stoic

Saints as contenders? Reggie Bush was a real nice pick up and all, but they're still weak on both sides of the line, not to mention they're runningback situation was never really a problem considering they have Deuce. They didn't address the O Line at all, I believe, and they only added like a 4th rounder on the D Line. You really think the draft made the Saints contenders?
The Cardinals are still the cardinals, but now they have a ton of weapons, I'd like to see what happens with this team in a couple of years. Dennie Green is looking to re-create Minnesota's juggernaut offense, but Defense is still gonna be tough.
Yeah, the Pats did make out real well with the draft choices on offense. Dangerous players that they needed, but the secondary is NOT looking good. Can the pats win with an decreasingly stable D every year? Is ty law signed to a team yet? or could the Pats still pick him up for as a band-aid?
I think the Cards and Saints improved more through free agency then the draft itself.

He's coming of an ACL tear. You're almost never the same after that. And you can't say Brees isn't a step up from Brooks, even with his rotator cuff as a problem. Contenders for the playoffs? No? Contenders in comparison to the past couple of seasons? Heck yes.

The Cards have had the offensive firepowere(minus QB) for a few seasons now. Now that they have a solid veteran, and more than a solid backup who will be a starter in a season, they're stepping up.

Well, that goes without saying. The Pats D was an obvious , no , is an obvious need. I honestly was pretty shocked at the draft choices, but I trust the man BB. I'm just going to take it in stride and see what happens. Law had his most productive year last year as a part of your jets, he doesn't need 80 tackles, he just needs to do what he did in New York and that would increase the Pats' D by at least 25%. And considering Rodney comes back 50% as good as he was(he will never be the same, he tore like every ligamanent in the knee as possible) we have a solid chance to compete, and not look so womanly in the secondary.

So basically, I think the Saints are looking well, and they deserve Bush. Cards are impressing me and they're my sleeper, look for them to go 8-8, 7-8, which is still a step up from last years debacle of a record.

[Stoic]

He's coming of an ACL tear. You're almost never the same after that. And you can't say Brees isn't a step up from Brooks, even with his rotator cuff as a problem. Contenders for the playoffs? No? Contenders in comparison to the past couple of seasons? Heck yes.

For some reason, when i hear "Contender" i think of playoff contender. I guess that's my bad. Yeah they're better, but I dunno, Faine is a step down from Bentley although he's a good center, Brees is huge, but it's not like the draft turned this team around. The Brees aquisition is what did it. Bush is gonna be a beast, the thing about Deuce is that he brings experience, I think their too young all over, too many new faces, a new system QB is like half a rookie, Bush can suceed as a rookie. I think they just have too many holes on defense to be legit at this point.

The Cards have had the offensive firepowere(minus QB) for a few seasons now. Now that they have a solid veteran, and more than a solid backup who will be a starter in a season, they're stepping up.

Edge is such a huge pick-up, I think Boldin and Leinart will be nasty together, but I feel like Fitzy needs a stronger armed QB to flourish. Pope is sooo big it'll be nice to see him helping Leinart in the middle, again Defense is a big issue. I don't know if the cards will get there yet, i think they got another 5 win season in front of them to be honest, but they're 2 years away in my opinion.

Well, that goes without saying. The Pats D was an obvious , no , is an obvious need. I honestly was pretty shocked at the draft choices, but I trust the man BB. I'm just going to take it in stride and see what happens. Law had his most productive year last year as a part of your jets, he doesn't need 80 tackles, he just needs to do what he did in New York and that would increase the Pats' D by at least 25%. And considering Rodney comes back 50% as good as he was(he will never be the same, he tore like every ligamanent in the knee as possible) we have a solid chance to compete, and not look so womanly in the secondary.

I don't really like Maroney, and I can't put my finger on why, but as far as projected value at the point of the draft it was a good pick. going wr in the second round was a nice boost but they had a huge area of concern that was neglected. Don't forget about Rodney's age on top of his injury... is Ty Law with the Pats? I haven't heard about that... i was offering it up as a potential signing.

[R. Hayze]

^ WEll see, Seatle was considering Law, but publicly stated they were backing off. And going with a CB in the draft, I believe that's a lock. Law and BB have been in talks for months now. It's just, Belichik aint backing down from his contract demands. IS it possible, yes. Probable, probably not. But, they have been speaking.

Originally Posted by Stoic

Edge is such a huge pick-up,

How the FUCK, Am I going to write down a huge paragraph to back up why I think the Cards are better, and NOT mention Edge? I fucking forgot, what a doofus I am. You make good points all around though.

[Stoic]

I'm not accusing you of leaving Edge out, I was agreeing they'll be better. No sarcasm(?) needed.

[R. Hayze]

Originally Posted by Stoic

I'm not accusing you of leaving Edge out, I was agreeing they'll be better. No sarcasm(?) needed.

Eh? My rep has got me sounding sarcastic when I'm serious.

Ha, I really completely forgot to mention him. I like, slapped my forhead when I saw you type edge. Like "ooooh, yea".