Is it accpetable for whites to call blacks n i g g e r, now??

[Queenspittah]

I recently had this discussion with NOX when I called out a white looking memeber for using the term. I wanna know what you guys think. I'll post the convo hold on...

Originally Posted by NoX

Soooo.. why the fukk black people say it to each other if its so unbareable to hear this word?

It's kinda like this...I can be in a convo wit one a my close friends n say, "Girl you stupid," or "Shut up bitch," n she knows that I mean nothing degrading or insulting cause we cool like that. But if I go up to some random person n call them "stupid" or tell them to "shut up" those are fighting words. Those words mean disrespect when they are coming from some one you don't know.

Same thing^^ with the word "nigga". I can say it to a fellow black person n there is the understanding that it's not degrading or insulting cause there is that bond that we share in the same aspect. But when a person outside of the race says it, it's fighting words cause if I don't know you...why would I think you are just playin around. I'm take it for what it means when it comes from a white person down here in the south: degrading and insulting.

Originally Posted by NoX

My people have been enslaved for way longer than blacks.. if you wanna get technical in the beginning WERE enslaved by Africans (Egyptians).

Wowo...break out a map n realize that though Egypt is right next to Africa, it is it's own separate entity, hence the reason we call them EGYPTIANS and not just plain old AFRICANS like we do for the rest of the countries in Africa. Egyptian and African are two different ethnicities. Wow...you don't even know your own history.

N just so you know dark skinned Egyptians were enslaved right along with Israel, by the fair skinned Egyptians...so we been in the same boat since ancient Bible times. Please learn your history before you open your mouth about a comment that wasn't even directed at you!

Originally Posted by NoX

The Nazi's called us kikes while they were slaughtering millions and restricting them to the ghettos forcefully and without option.

Yeah at least you got reparations. Jews got settlements for the Holocaust. We talkin millions of dollars given to them for the holocaust. And if they were dead then their decendants got the money. N the survivors got to move back home and work at their jobs after it was over. Blacks got nothing but a kick in the ass after the civil war. We were thrown out to the street with no reparations, no 40 acres n a sterile mule that was promised, for that matter. We had no where to go, no job to sustain families...no other nations fighting for us. Even the yankees called us "n i g g e r s" and treated us like slaves in the military: cooks, body buryers, latrine cleaners. And slavery went on hundreds of years longer than the holocaust. Your point?

Originally Posted by NoX

I dont walk up to my dude Czar and be like "Whussup kike?"

N neither would I, even if it was an inside thing that you guys called each other.

Originally Posted by NoX

Point is, we aint make it acceptable for daily use.. so what you saying? If it aint being used in a racist context than how you taking offense to it when you jam rap songs all day wit that shit flying left and right... I've even heard gospel preachers in the hood using it.

Like I said "bitch" or "stupid" aren't accpetable forms of addressing someone you don't know...but between familiar friends it is. That doesn't mean that I want other people calling me "bitch" or "stupid" just because I share those as jokes with my friends. PERIOD. What's so hard about understanding that.

Originally Posted by NoX

And yes I've said niggah infront of some of the craziest lookin dreads, gang bangers or whoever you could think of in some of the worst hoods in Broward and Dade County. Aint no one ever said shit to my face bout nothin.

Yeah like I believe that. You in FLORIDA, one of the most racist states below the mason dixon n blacks (the most "craziest lookin dreads, gang bangers or whoever you could think of in some of the worst hoods in Broward and Dade County") LET you call them "n i g g e r" and ain't do nuttin. Dawg I'm from North Carolina and nuttin like that ain't even happenin here let alone further down south. Stop lyin! If it was like that them the Kramer incident wouldn't have been a big deal. WE DON'T LIKE WHITES CALLIN US "n i g g e r" not matter how much we say it AMONGST OURSELVES!

Originally Posted by NoX

Double standards shouldn't apply..

What are you talkin bout. What double standard?? No one on here is callin you kike or latinos spics or Mexicans wet backs. All I see is "n i g g e r"

Originally Posted by NoX

I use it because ever since I can remember that shit has been thrown around as frequently as 'mutha fukka'... so its like enscribed in my venacular. I try not to use it as much tho cuz it aint right for no one to use.

If it ain't right for no one to use then why are you opposing my condemnation of it! You got on here defending why it's okay to say it, by stating that since black people say it whites should be able to. IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU SHOULD NOT SAY "n i g g e r" PERIOD!

[Jay-Rede]

ok sorry i couldnt be fucked reading all that, but i agree to a point with what nox is saying, if black people say it to eachother....... however i would never call a black person this name as i class it as racism, i dont like black people saying it neither.... some black people get offended when other black people use the term because of slavery and shit.... it shouldnt be used by anyone

[run]

im moving this. wrong section and your making a poll that is out of extreme bias on a touchy subject.

[-JinX-]

Why Would White People Wanna Say It Anyway..? If Its Cool For Em Too Or Not...

SmH @ This Whole Topic.

[8th]

nigga please

[Queenspittah]

Originally Posted by run

im moving this. wrong section and your making a poll that is out of extreme bias on a touchy subject.

My bad on posting in the wrong spot. And ya comment is biased iin itself. I made it cause its the second time one here I've seen a white guy say it's cool n that mad black people let them do it. I posted a poll to se just how many people really feel that its cool, because I don't condone it. What's so wrong about that? N it can't be any more "touchy" than a white person actually refering to anyone that way because from them its ALWAYS HAD A NEGATIVE CONOTATION whereas blacks turned it around AMONGST ONE ANOTHER and made it a shared bond that the white race just doesn't understand no matter how many times their fav rapper says it.

You don't like it fine don't post or vote but your opinion isn't anymore golden than mine...so please...

[DaVe E BuRnOuT]

Ok Now Here's The Thing..If your walking down the street and you see somebody you don't know and your like yo nigg**,Thats Not Ok...But Some people hangout with alot of african americans..Its a word used so frequently around you and your boy's that it becomes apart of your vocab..Like Take Me For Instance..I Live In Binghamton NY..Yeah its got its white kids..But in My Hood There's Alot Of African Americans..And the reason i don't say blacks is cas facts are thats just as racist as the word nigg**..Just Like Calling somebody white..And like yeah people think im "White"..but No..yeah i got white in me but im 25% Native American
it be Disrespectful to my ancestor's To Call My Self White..So When Somebody ask What i am i Say Im native American and itialian..cas Im 25% of both..But i have to agree wid Nox...Like it all depend on who you are,And where your from..If you from the hood and thats the life you live and the way you talk who's anybody to try to change you..See the net opened my eyes..Cas back in the day i would be like nigga this nigga that in my music..but i understand its not acceptable to those down south where to some people racism is real..But as far as regular buis shits still in my vocab..But Its Not me being racist cas i'll say nigga to all my boys no matter the color..But Nigg** Means a totally different thing..its an ignorant person..And just like the word nigga ill call anybody acting ignorant that shit..I Feel Like As long as its not used to degrade somebody because of there race then its all good...nahmean?

Ps..If your from the suburbs its not ok to use it cas your not hood..you don't live wid roaches..your not living on public assistance..You got african americans That friends who act more light skin then you..you never lived the life others have..So You Got No Ghetto Pass..Period..And i think the poll is wrong..cas theres other reasons people say it..and its not ok for all light skin people to say it nahmean queen..Real is real..SiMpLe

[Kaeo.Seru]

*Nit picking* last time i checked Egypt was an African country. its not right next to africa, it is IN Africa.*done nit picking*
but in terms of white guys using the word. its only acceptable from 1 of my white friends. only because he's not just a friend he's family. and we've grown up together. but he knows not to say it around certain ppl. but as a general rule if a white person says it to me in person he's gonna have to apologize immediately. i dont make a big deal of it on the net cuz i dont see the point in argueing about it on hear. none of these kids will change their ways. its futile

[Onslawt]

I voted.

[Vick Slate]

i drop nigga with alot of my black friends
and joke with the white using it

i drop n i g g e r with a few of my black friends


queen's back on her rag again...stupid slut

[8th]

Originally Posted by DaVe E BuRnOuT

And the reason i don't say blacks is cas facts are thats just as racist as the word nigg**..

HA. are you serious?

[run]

its bias because in the first post asking if its okay, you've written a novel on why its not.

if your offended if a white person calls you a ******, you should be just as offended if a black person calls you ******. having words that one race can say, and another cant, is racist in itself. white people were the original users of the word to describe black people. but now its not okay for white people to use it, but it is for blacks?

and calling your friend ****** isnt a bond, its a disgrace to your black heritage.

it doesnt matter HOW its said, if you use the word, then shit why the fuck cant anybody else. making such a big deal out of it causes more harm than good.

[chris]

someone needs to revoked this broad "i am black" license. this chick just said Egypt was next to Africa and its a whole diff country ahahaha. Egypt is in Africa.


anyway, everyone call me nigga. shit the word is like saying "yo" around here. got spanish, whites and all that and even chinese and indians saying the word. that shit is universal now thats why I laugh when some bunch of african americans decided to run a campaign to boycott it. ya right.

but if a whiteboy i dont know end up saying some shit like "come here nigga or some crazy shit with the word nigga on it and I dont know him then ummm god bless that cement, concrete or street curb against that person face.

[Queenspittah]

Originally Posted by Vick Slate

queen's back on her rag again...stupid slut

I make a topic about an issue that affects most black people and apparently white people too, and I'm on my rag...? Why, just because I have a different opinion, am I on my rag for stating it? N for the record I've never called you out your name and disrespected you and I don't apprecitate you refering to my gender negatively by calling me a slut and making ill references to the female body. Hate...the saga continues... For no reason at all...

Originally Posted by run

its bias because in the first post asking if its okay, you've written a novel on why its not.

N I also posted NOX's side of the argument as well...so how was that biased. I stated the way I felt just like I'm asking everyone else to do here. Dang...if I had posted witout stating my stand point then someone would have said "how you gon ask us our opinion when you didn't give yours"...SMH can't please everybody...

Originally Posted by run

if your offended if a white person calls you a ******, you should be just as offended if a black person calls you ******.

No I shouldn't because I've had black family n friends use the word benevolently growing up, but when it came from a white person it meant degredation and white supremacy.

Originally Posted by run

having words that one race can say, and another cant, is racist in itself. white people were the original users of the word to describe black people. but now its not okay for white people to use it, but it is for blacks?

No it isn't. It's no different than an inside joke. It just happens to be a bond that black people share, one that goes into our heritage and represents a struggle we had to fight as a race.

Originally Posted by run

and calling your friend ****** isnt a bond, its a disgrace to your black heritage.

No it's an inside thing that I wouldn't expect you to understand. If you look at it that way, which apparently you do, then it's obvious that you don't understand...which is why white folks shouldn't say it. They don't understand...n if they think that just cause we say it it's cool for them, then it just further proves how much they don't understand. It's a familial thing.

Originally Posted by run

it doesnt matter HOW its said, if you use the word, then shit why the fuck cant anybody else. making such a big deal out of it causes more harm than good.

Whites are the ones making the big deal out of it by acting like it's a word that they can't stop saying. I don't call jews kikes, or Mexicans wet backs, but I've heard both races say it jokingly amongst themselves when they're crackin or holdin personal convo. But I know enough to understand that it's a bond that only they share n comin from me it would be kind of offensive cause I'm not of that race or in that familial circle of shared culture and heritage. You don't agree then don't say it but don't look down on me for what my culture has adapted into it's heretage over the years.

Originally Posted by gorilla stance

someone needs to revoked this broad "i am black" license. this chick just said Egypt was next to Africa and its a whole diff country ahahaha. Egypt is in Africa.

LOL...mkay...I'm not PERFECT...I can be wrong like everyone else from time to time...Egypt is in Africa but it IS IT'S OWN SEPERATE COUNTRY JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE OTHER COUNTTRIES IN AFRICA and the ethnicity of the people living there isn't neccessarily black. It's almost more of an Asian ethnicity in Egyptians than Black African...you can see it in their features. That's why it was easy for them enslave their own natives. Black skinned Egyptians suffered the same mistreatment from farier skinned Egyptians. Should have put it that way...LOL

[DaVe E BuRnOuT]

Originally Posted by 8th

HA. are you serious?

LOL nah..I got black friends and i say it like that..i was just high ramblen on..lol..but really black people arn't black..there just darker then any other race..Call'em Chocolate..lol J/K