Is it acceptable for black people to be racist?

[Mistuh Grippz]

I guess some believe in the double standard of saying the word niggah how only whites are not allowed to use it, but when black people are racist towards any other race is it not looked at as the same as whites being racist to blacks? In my eyes, the word "wigger" is just as bad as the real use of the N word.

Discuss openly, try to keep "beef" to a minimal and have an intelligent debate about this.. assuming that there will be intelligent people responding. Even though some mufukkas aint gone stop their gayful glee, ya know ignorance is bliss and what not.

Have fun!

[Hoodini]

wigger doesnt have any where near the same background as nagger does

[..Burger King..]

so? - you see many black people use the terms honkey, white boy, wigger, etc. and everyone is fine and dandy with it. if i say anything of darkey, coon, ni.gge.r then im rascist?...ok then. shit isn't right. just because some dumb fucks enslaved AFRICANS 300 years ago, doesnt mean I OWE YOU SHIT. don't act like you deserve anything.

[Kaeo.Seru]

1st of all if you fully understood the true definition of "Racism" you would know that it is impossible for African Americans to be racist. we can be Prejudice. but not racist. Racism is more than hate. Its a systematical way of keeping a specific race of people "Oppressed" Based on the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce inherent superiority of a particular race. Now what we blacks do is hate those who are racist against us which in the general scope of things happens to be white ppl. I'm not saying its right or wrong. I'm just saying that by DEFINITION We CAN'T be racist.

i told my self i was gonna stay out of this when i saw you going at it with Queen. but I thought this would be a good time to inform you of a few things. and this isn't my opinion. this is fact. My original Major was African American Studies/History. plus i've been mostly black for at least 99% of my life(I'm mixed with Rican as well)

calling someone a n i g g e r or a honkey does not make you racist. just ignorant and prejudice

[8th]

Originally Posted by |aeo|

1st of all if you fully understood the true definition of "Racism" you would know that it is impossible for African Americans to be racist.

are you kidding me?

rac-ism [rey-siz-uhm]
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

If a black person hates a white person, or asian or whatever, solely because of their race, then they are racist. Black people can be racist, and ive heard alot of them speak. Any race can be racist, not just white people.

[Kaeo.Seru]

your 2nd definition is what people have come to believe as racism. but it falls more so under the scope of Prejudice. its a fine line between Racism and Prejudice. both are related to one another, yes. but are two different entities

Prejudice- Preconceived judgment or opinion. an adverse opinion or leaning without forming just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual , a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.

but your 1st definition is saying the same thing as mine... in a nutshell its hating a group of ppl because you believe that their race is inferior to yours. balcks dont hate whites because of this. blacks hate whites because they hated us first and for what happened to our ancestors. and for what still goes on today in america. like i said b4 I'm not condoning it. just stating the truth.

[Noggah]

it isnt acceptable for anyone to be racist or hate someone based solely on the color of their skin... but sadly thats how it is... though some words might not hold the background that others do... they are still said with the same hatred directed towards the person and are used to try and degrade someone... making them think they are better than them... therefore opressing them and as a conclusion - being racist...

the word honkey is basically saying a white person has all the characteristics of a white trash/trailor trash white person... so really black people can be racist... thats just logical thinking...even with your definition legend...

my whole point of view is get over the whole slavery thing... shit happened a long time ago... and noone alive today held a direct hand in the situation... go see Primevil... Orlando Jones thanks the slavetraders who brought his ancestors overseas from Africa to America cause the conditions over there are just so horrible and many of the situations people face are just downright tragic and sad...but i mean shit... jews are more over the holocaust... and that happened this century and affected a lot more people....but im just guessing with the numbers on that one... maybe not in the long run... you just got to decide on whats worse - working outside, being whipped and being oppressed for a hundred and fifty plus years... or having mass slaughterings of your people and being forced to die in a concentration camp...

now i do think it is okay for some people to hate others... like black folks hating cops... there is a cause for that because there is racial discrimination... but there is racial discrimination for a reason... that doesnt mean its right... but its still a fact... many innocent folks were and still are harmed because of it...

back to the meat of the subject... white folks going into the projects are likely to get beat down and jumped for no apparent reason... i was with someone that lived there and was gettin eyed hard when i had never seen any of these people nor done anything positive nor negative to affect their lives in anyway... most people just tend to project the hate/insecurities they feel either towards themselves or society onto someone different that just happens to come by at the right time... ive been robbed in ghettos and projects...on the basis of what i think is strictly because i was white... the people who committed these acts had no reason to dislike me and were pretty much just committing a crime because they saw some white dude in a "black" area and wanted to teach him a lesson... later on received some of these properties back because of my connections who basically lifted dude up by his shirt (no joke) and said he was gonna pound the fuck out of him if he didnt either return my shit or give me money for what he stole... to which he promptly handed the guy $40 for me... which i gratefully accepted...

just to throw a little tidbit in... if black folks see a white dude beating up a black dude... they will most likely immediately hop in just cause they think its on some racist shit... whereas white people are more likely to let shit go down and whoever won won... on some fair fight shit... and then whoever won - well then its their side of the story and he was in the right...

but to end these ramblings i think it is ignorance that leads to hatred... all types of people can hate... and hating someone is only acceptable on some righteous indignation shit....

[8th]

Originally Posted by |aeo|

your 2nd definition is what people have come to believe as racism.

and its also what the dictionary defines as racism.

Originally Posted by |aeo|

balcks dont hate whites because of this. blacks hate whites because they hated us first and for what happened to our ancestors. and for what still goes on today in america.

you cant speak for everyone. maybe thats what some think. But you cant tell me there arent black people that think they are better than whites, as a race. My basic point is, saying black people by definition cant be racist, is a ridiculous statement. anyone can be racist.

[Kaeo.Seru]

i'm not gonna argue with you but syaing that my statement is ridiculous is crazy in itself esp. when i gave info to back up my statment. you can say that you dont agree which is fine but saying that what i said holds no weight is ridiculous... and none of my dictionaries have the definition that yours have. NONE of them.

[Noggah]

my post defies the laws of gravity... and logically explains why your statement is wrong legend... or why your dictionaries should at least have 8ths definition in them...

just look for the topic sentence to each paragraph to nit pick through the glorious/massive post i made...

[Kaeo.Seru]

ok. I give. you guys win. Blacks are racist scum! death to all us n ! g g e r s.

i'm not queen you're not gonna make me feel like an idiot for trying to argue something this trivial over the net.

[8th]

try dictionary.com

and i read your first post. no argument will convince me one certain race cannot be racist. who can be racist? just whites? can mexicans be racist? asians?

ANYONE CAN BE A RACIST. regardless of there race.

im not trying to get in an argument, just a healthy debate. so dont take what im saying as im trying to 'beef' or anything.

[Kaeo.Seru]

yes You are correct anyone can be racist. but under the terms that i stated above. HATE ALONE cannot make you racist.

"Its a systematical way of keeping a specific race of people "Oppressed" Based on the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce inherent superiority of a particular race."

Blacks in the US cannot Oppress whites. They are the majority and control the government. any racial group can be racist as long as they are in control of the other groups or government. just like when white minority was in control of South Africa they used the laws and military to control the black majority. thats the part you guys KEEP missing. i agrre that any group can be Racist but not just cuz they hate another group. thay have to be in a position of power over the group they hat in order to be racist. thats one thing that dictionaries wont define clearly I'm trying to tell yall I studied this stuff for 2 1/2 years. i'm not talking about some shit i just read yesterday. i would break down the full history of racism in depth but i dont want to type that much

[8th]

im just talking about racism. One race doesn't have to oppress another race to be considered racist. If you hate someone because of their race, then you are a racist. it really is that simple. Your not talking just racism. We are both talking about different things.

[Noggah]

whites are only gonna be the majority in America for so long... shit... we are already on the decline...lol... but we will always run the government cause we get out n vote...i will give in a little by saying Hate alone does not make u racists... but indeed prejudiced, as u mentioned earlier... and though people are not actually oppressing the other race... they are still trying to make them feel oppressed... or just put them down at least... i always live by the old cliche...

sticks n stones may break my bones... but ill kill you with my words...