Iran Tests Missiles

[Climax]

They have tested some big nukes in the past and now they got some short range missile shit going on. This could mean trouble for Isreal though because everyone knows that ceasefire isnt going to last. Drop your opinions and thoughts on this..heres the link.

Iran Test-Fires Short-Range Missile, Tests Comes While Military Training Plane Catches Fire, Crashes During War Games - CBS News

[optikaL`]

Iran is in great position at the moment. With Israel receiving such a beating it shows that Hezbollah is a forced to be reckoned with by themselves, not even looking at the fact if Iran's forces joined up with them. Pair that with the fact that Hezbollah has cells in countless countries and Iran can now hold their atomic weapons over the rest of the Middle East without repercussions. It can now dictate almost the entire oil market, as thats what they've wanted for years.

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america wont let anyone touch saudi arabia.

world oil limits have peaked , or will within the next few years, and once that happens everybody is fucked. demand will heavily outweigh supply and everything will be expensive as hell.

[optikaL`]

What could we do to stop Iran from leaning on Saudi Arabia? We have our hands tied in a war that can only end as the Vietnam war did and little to no friends left in that region other than the Saudi's. The UN is already getting fed up with our nation building (aka, nation burning).

As for the oil supply, look at countries like Brazil. They have almost no demand for oil since they've moved onto either 85% ethanol or pure ethanol based fuel. They get their ethanol from their abundant source of sugar canes. They should be the model of the future. They learned from the 70's shortage warning, the one our country missed due to our head's being up our own ass.

[Climax]

Mahmud Ahmadinejad was quoted on Glenn Beck today saying some shit about "Isreal must be whipped off the map" and that shit is pretty much a statement saying we are going to attack Isreal. If that happens then we will get involved..then other countries will and it will get worst than ever before. I see World War II right around the corner.

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^you listen to glenn beck? really? awesome

[inflsnow]

look, if iran actually dropped a nuke on tel aviv, ww3 would be very painful (for people in the middle east) and very short. the only thing people in the US would notice is slightly raised cancer rates 10 years on from fallout drifting round the globe. and a chunk of the globe from around the western border of egypt/turkey to the eastern border of pakistan would be a big radioactive hole. there's a reason the US still keeps its strategic arsenal, ya know.

if iran tried to attack israel conventionally, they would lose horribly. israel couldn't beat hezbollah, but it's just the same as how the US couldn't beat the viet cong. almost exactly the same. in a conventional war israel is still the strongest military force in the region by a long way.

oh yeah, but either way gas prices would go haywire.

[Climax]

^Lol..

Israel defeated Hezbollah. Hezbollah claimed they won after the war was over..they lost almost 1000 people in Lebanon and Israel lost only near to 200 people. Nobody really won in Vietnam either..Neither country really accomplished anything except for a bunch of casualities. But I believe if Iran's real army attacked Israel, Israel couldnt handle it. Because it wouldnt just be Iran if they attacked Israel, because after a short period..Hezbollah would be back in it..other countries that were the allies of Iran would also jump into shit. Then we would have to help them out.

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It was not a "victory" for israel. There goal was to disarm and defeat hezzbollah, niether of which they did. They agreed to a cease-fire for some stupid reason. I mean, In the six day war, they defeated 4 nations in 6 days, and now they couldn't defeat a terrorist group in 30? They fought this war how americans now fight wars. Very half-assed. They needed to go in with over whelming force and whipe them out. Not just react to when hezzbolah rained down missiles on israel. But they, like america, is trying to fight a media-friendly no-casualties war, and that is impossible. Basically, now hezzbollah, and all other terrorists are emboldened.

[Vor Ax]

sorry to get off topic

but i heard on the radio something like N.Korea was aggrivitaed and was considering attacking us due to some military testing we're doin with S.Korea they believe its a pre-emptive strike

but basically like Opt said we got our own problems to deal with although something has to be done

[optikaL`]

Originally Posted by Climax

^Lol..

Israel defeated Hezbollah. .

You're out of your mind. Hezbollah is a militia group funded by Iran. Israel is the most powerful force in the region, once defeating four of the most powerful surrounding countries in under a week. Thats the same as saying the US fighting to a stalemate against a force such as the mexican army would be a "victory".

They weren't fighting for body counts, Israel's only objective was to completely disarm Hezbollah, something they failed miserably at. Hezbollah only needed to withstand the fighting, and they did. To make matters worse, Israel did nothing but strengthen Hezbollah as the Arab nations are now pouring more money into the militia, adopting its training and fighting techniques as well as looking at Israel as a now defeatable foe. All you were able to show by body counts is how much more effective the Hezbollah missle strikes were since they had such a lower ratio of soldier/civilian deaths.

Another damage to Israel is the terrible air strikes they used. They hit portions of southern Lebanon that are known to not have any Hezbollah cells. They took this chance to try to cripple Lebanon's entire infrastructure under the guise of fighting Hezbollah. I'm not even bringing up the UN bombing. They had a huge international backlash because of this. If there were a major war in the Middle East right now, far less countries would come to the aid of Israel after this last battle.

I've never supported Israel, and this did little to make me change that. They are just as bad as the countries they look down upon, and in some cases, worse. Can I blame Arab nations for wanting to destroy Israel altogether? Not in the least.

[Vor Ax]

^^^ i agree

i dont support israel at all either

israels that dumb friend you got that takes shit far out of poportion and ends up gettin you and him jumped at the park because someone cause some bumped him in a bball game

i thats not nearly as big as two soldiers being kidnapped but just my view on it

[8th]

^hezzbollah attack 11 israeli soldiers, killed 9 and then took the other two hostage. They had a right to react the way they did. But IMO they pussy-footed around and only emboldened hezzbollah and all the other islamofacists when they could have wiped them out.

[optikaL`]

The Israeli soldiers that were kidnapped were in Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah was well within its rights as a part of the governing body of Lebanon to arrest a military force invading their land. If Iran had some soldiers march into Texas, what do you think would happen to them? The real question we should be asking is why they crossed the border in the first place.

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yes, hezzbollah is a part of the government, but the armed wing of hezzbollah is NOT lebanon's army. They do not have the right to fight wars or attack soldiers on behalf of lebanon. And israeli was in southern lebanon to take out known terrorists. These people launch missles into israel on a daily basis from southern lebanon, therefore israel has a right to go in and stop them.