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Old 12-24-2006, 01:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There's a dude named Scott. If any of you somehow remember some of my old threads you might know that it IS kinda girl related, but that's not what the thread's about.

Scott and I might have to fight. It's kind of a question of pride, and kind of a question of me desperately needing to do him physical harm. Trust me, justice is on my side.

Problem is - Scott's in the army. Even before he went he was kind of a muscular cat. And now he's back from all the training and all the whatever. He's not *huge* - like 5'11" maybe 180, but like I said he was no joke before...and as of now he's like that fuel you put in large trucks. To an extreme degree. Plus has military training. Not extensive, only a year or so.

So...basically on paper I don't have a chance. I'm pretty big, 6'2" 190 or so, but I've fallen off the weights and everything as of a while back and physically I'm no match for a soldier. I used to do some boxing but never any matches, just heavy bags and stuff - pretty much for a workout. I took karate when I was 12. It means dick now.

If you were in my position, as a taller, less built dude with an obvious disadvantage physically, how would you go about coming out on top in a confrontation? I'm not the type to start fights at all - only been in a few real ones in my life - but this is the kind of shit where it's been coming. Almost happened tonight.

It's a serious question and serious answers would be good. No dumbshit "learn karate lol" or vague nonsense like that. And no dirty tactics - not to be dramatic but it's kind of about honor. And I'm not a bitch. If you have any practical advice I'd appreciate it.

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Man up n fight him.

If you lose, lose swinging, not crying in the fetal position.
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Make sure you catch him with the first one? ummm.. dress up as the president.. soldiers arent supposed to hit their leader.. I dunno.. just go down swinging I suppose.
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You guys are the dumb. If I just went at it like that, I'd more than likely lose. Any advice besides "keep your head moving, keep your feet apart so he can't knock you down easy, don't be drunk, keep your hands up" is what I'm looking for. Shit that could be useful.
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Keep him away since you've got the reach advantage.
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Ok.. make sure you're not wildly swinging.. hes most likely a disciplined figher being in the military and all.. stick and move.. test out your fighting tactics on a few sixteen year olds tommorow to knock that rust off.
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try to size up any disadvantages he has.

whats the reason for you wanting to fight him?
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I'ld say go and buy some knuckle dusters.
And keep them in your pocket, when and if you two fight
and if he somehow has managed to get you on the floor, slip them on and BLAMO!
hit him right up side the head.
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He's a cockbag who deserves it one way or another for shit he does to lots of people, but he also fucked an ex of mine after I explicitly asked him not to knowing she would do it to get revenge on me. He was a "friend" at that time. There's more to it than that but not worth arguing about so don't say "that's not worth a fight". It is, believe me.
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it all depends on what skills you have

the reach is an obvious factor but lets face it.. outside of boxing you can getling skills? hes probably had some training there are you good enough to use that as an advantage or to at least not have it be a disadvantage?

also a good shot to the nose will slow someone up.. effecitve use of feet kicking etc to help maintain distance and try to use your reach advantage is a good idea.. a lot of people tend to jump back when you kick out a little.. im not talking kung fu side kicks but a quick kick out is good to back someone up.. also you could consider aiming for kness as thatll definitely slow him up.. another big thing people over look its the good old feint.. a quick fake punch followed by a heavy overhand or hook if they get undisciplined and overreact can be a greta move..

drop me somrew more details im realtively in your boat being 6' 3 except im 220 so im not really worried about them getting in close i do it alot with fastewr cats because then i can make them work against my weight

ps aa couple other cheats is grip his face digging the thumb in below the eyeball to hold his head steady for a good shot.. closing and grabbing the back of the head and either kness or uppercuts will fuck a day up.. knees and elbows are underused weapons.. thats solid pieces of bone and can do serious damage kness especially since your legs are way stronger

dont be scared of going slightly cheap with a nut shot kidney punch or shot to the solar plexus too.. any of those will give you a definite edge

this has turned into an unorganized ramble because im typing as i think.. but hopefully it helps.. and given a few more particulars i might have some more ideas

have you seen him fight? is he good with his hands or just strong?
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I haven't seen him fight. But it's like...what he does. He's a hostile drunk and has probably been in many besides just the ones I've heard about. He's a typical frat-mentality douchebag - except slightly more dangerous. Pisses in the middle of the road, looks at people he doesn't know sideways for no reason. The phrase "I just don't give a fuck" applies.

More details? I have big hands...real strong grip and fingers from years of guitar playing which seems to me would only be useful in dirty fighting which I said I didn't want to get into, pretty strong arms and upper body from push-ups and doing a lot of stuff with dumbells. I do a bunch of reps with a 35 in each whenever I get a moment - or used to anyway. My legs aren't that strong since my skateboarding days. They just gangle around - not that I'm clumsy. Practically speaking I have no "skills". I can think on my feet and I probably want it more. That's about it.
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Well, since you're not strong on your feet, lowkicks are probably no option then, i'd say duck, lol, might sound dumb but, try to just duck the first few hits he tries to land, but keep your eyes open, as soon as you see that he took his swing too wide or is gonna hit too slow, put a step aside, grab his wrist, block it and put pressure on it. I'd explain you some pressure points moves, but that's too fucking difficult over the net, maybe if you have any luck you'll find something on google.

Oh, or if you see an opening to hit for his plexus or below his ribs, do so as hard as you can, a full-blow to the plexus could of course make him die and the one on his lower ribs could give him a collapsed long, but oh well.
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punch him in the throat. [dead ass serious]
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^another clasic i forgot

man.. dont go into a fight planning to fight the clean fight.. that shits no good.. im not saying you have to grab a baseball bat.. but the other shit is fair game

you wanting it more is good.. but if hes willing to do more shit to win it he probably will

above all else dont be scared.. if your doubting yourself too much itll cost you

theres what you wouldnt call dirty ways to get an advatage

like i said since you have strong hands.. get a grip on his head somehow and land a punch itll hit that much harder

also like walter said.. everyone wnats to head hunt like they were mike tyson.. catch him an unexpected body shot and knock the wind out of him or solar plexus nuts throat kidneys

any of those will freeze a motherfucker up for a moment

THATS when you can probably land some really good headshots

also become familiar with the basics of grappling.. if he gets you down or atttempts any kind of headlock get your chin to your chest.. cant get a choke in and then a headlock is pretty easy to break out of.. i won one fight easier than i had been already because a cat managed to get me in a headlokc (he was a state finalist wrestler) i chilled took a couple shots in the top of the head and then just pushed out and slammed him face first in the concrete and put him in a chokehold and made him basically admit to being my bitch.. not neccesarily because im better.. just knew enough to take advantage of the situation feel me

you can use your height to an advantage to if you lock up.. body lean and control is very important

besides all that HIT SOFT THINGS

a cheek is pretty tough but when you strart hitting noses right above the eyes is good to cause a cut and get some blood in the eye temple and body shots especially the softer areas mentioned eaelier


and as far as low kicks..a quick step forward with almost a half hearted soccer like kick forward its ahrd to explain but common.. WILL back a dude up.. iys natural reaction.. doesnt have to really be able to hurt.. they will step back

use your elbows and kness if you can.. and a headbutt is great for a surprise and especially if you catch em in the nose or something can fuck a day up

straightforward punches too.. a lot of dudes get into that wild hook swinging bullshit.. you can eat em up if you got straight down the middle.. uppercuts are big too because if your close they can be hard to see coming and slip right by
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straightforward punches too.. a lot of dudes get into that wild hook swinging bullshit.. you can eat em up if you got straight down the middle.. uppercuts are big too because if your close they can be hard to see coming and slip right by
Ha...yeah in the fight I lost worst (I've got mad excuses for it but...who the fuck cares) - I swung like a pendulum and he just jabbed quick in and out, boom boom boom. I still have a scar from that altercation. Scott, incidentally, was watching it.

Another thing I kind of have for me is that I'm really not afraid. Not because I'm bad, but because I don't mind getting physically hurt or even humiliated. I've had enough of both to get used to it...I'll pretty much do what has to be done without much regard for myself.

And nobody ask me if it's happened yet. If it does I'll tell about it win or lose.
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