How as a minority- do you have a transparent conversation about racism with whites??

[Bogsworth]

Im feelin like although things are a bit dastardly at the moment it seems as if their is a slow and steady integration of white culture within african americans but also black culture into the world. I can speak for many of my homeboys when they say they know a white guy, who they were their first black friends. I've lived some of everywhere from the hood to the burbs, and in all honesty i loved living in both and to be 100% honest put up with more bullshit from people in the projects lol. in essence people are people. Hip Hop Fa Life.

[CrayzWayz]

Originally Posted by Jabb$

But whut the fukk at thinkin because a single black family moved into a white community, the WHITE COMMUNITY would sell they're homes and relocate? i dont think so.

i lived in this community when i was younger that actually had that happen.

Originally Posted by Xylo

actually blacks do not have to sell out to live any where! ive lived amongst whites and now live amongst professional whites philipinos blacks etc

and i have not had to reduce my blackness to live amongst them.

Money allows you to live where ever you want to.

you dont have to conform or forget where you come from to live any where.

people need to expand their minds and see and bring forth where they want to be in their lives!

in order to dialog with non blacks you have to open your minds and be honest and understand the past and the present and the future.

and it will help you see where people different from your selves are coming from.

i'm not saying that they would have to sell-out per se. what i'm saying is that they'd have to "play by the rules." especially in those uppity communities. i'm not going off of t.v. and movies here. this is stuff i've actually been through (as far as whites picking up and relocating) or have seen (blacks having to go by the rule book).

[DaVe E BuRnOuT]

What about the slavery of Native Americans..We don't be complaining..Or the fact That the white Man took are land..

[Xylo]

Originally Posted by DaVe E BuRnOuT

What about the slavery of Native Americans..We don't be complaining..Or the fact That the white Man took are land..

Excellent point the american indians suffered some of the greatest loss in history!

and still do but are also some of the richest people in america they have a stock in casinos etc.

plus the american indians i met of the mikosukee tribe in the everglades live extremely well most have huge cribs exrtravagent cars and trucks etc.

but in retrospect thats a tiny token towards prosperity when your land is taken.

good point Davey!

[CrayzWayz]

two different cultures that handle things two different ways. But then again, no one took the natives away from their land to a foreign land with absolutely nothing. ;)

Atleast the natives knew exactly where they where and where they come from.

[impolite]

native americans can look at where they're from and know it's there, but since it's been seized they can't exactly go back and reclaim it. africa is still predominantly governed and inhabited by african people. much of it has not been developed beyond its original culture and customs. african americans can get in touch with it any old time. but it's most common in people who were born in and raised on american values to not really care about another country, or have the personal strength to endeavour surviving in one besides the one they know best. and this logic, in the case of native americans, seems grossly understated by crayzwayzZzz

[KUNTRYDIABLO]

I live in georgia and u got some people that are racists and u got some that arent, one thing that is important is knowin who you are talkin to, because different races bring different perspectives, but a lack of respect could soil the whole question, everybody knows it is not all good but its still a subject you just stay focused on being objective and tread lightly just to not offend because then it would turn into a lose lose situation

[Christ]

Indians are a minority also. I was talking about minorities, not a specific race, I just happen to be Black American, so I was speaking on behalf of a Black American.

So sure they may have obsticles to face. Every minority does.

Its when the Majority in this country fails to recognize the magnitude, or does -but still refuse to address it...Why would anyone be shocked after centuries of the same treatment (just modernized)...A growing hatred from minorities. A deep seeded hatred. Not from myself, but I understand/recognize it in some minorities that didnt quite get the breaks maybe I recieved. Lotta cats still catchin bad breaks. Whats even more insulting is patrionizing minorities discussing the issue. Saying things like "you got it good" or "stop complaining" . There should be more laws enforcing equality. If their was , I dont think we would have 70% of the racial issues we face today.

[KUNTRYDIABLO]

in my honest opinion the conversation is over political, i feel like we are all the same people like if you was my next door neighbor and somethin happened over there where you at, i would look out for you and try to protect our neighborhood and thats basically where people miss the point, everybody is the same just different politics and religion, but we all deserve respect and should give respect just the same

[run]

'How, as a minority, do you have a transparent conversation about racism with whites?'

simple.

"Hey man, what are your views on racism in America?"

If you approach it any differently you generally have a preconceived notion about white people, which could be seen as racism in itself.

[Boogiε]

'm not saying that they would have to sell-out per se. what i'm saying is that they'd have to "play by the rules." especially in those uppity communities. i'm not going off of t.v. and movies here. this is stuff i've actually been through (as far as whites picking up and relocating) or have seen (blacks having to go by the rule book).

What rules?
If your going to be ignorant about "the rules" you don't deserve
to live in a nice "uppity community". I mean seriously if you're going to be doing
drug deal, blasting music at 3 in the morning, yelling and screaming at all hours. You
don't deserve to live in a nice community. And your better off staying in an another community. And honestly I don't blame people for moving when blacks move into a neighborhood especially if they're doing the stuff I said above, because once you get
a couple loud obnoxious people in a neighborhood house values start to decline. And that's fact. And I would much rather look after my interest money wise then be friendly.


I just re-read what I typed..
Comes off sort of racist.

I am not a racist, racism is a crime, and crime is for black people..



AYO!

[Christ]

Anyways..I will never by into some ole "act this way" in the neigborhood type of garbage. You can act the way you please. Their are laws in place if you go over board.

Freedom of speech and expression in this country is your right. You dont even have to earn it. Kind of like 97% of the poeple posting here. Some of us have done our part...the majority havent and never will. That is the disconnect. I wish at a certain age evrybody had to enlist in some branch of the military, that way they have earned their keep, and I could possibly respect them on even ground.

[CrayzWayz]

Originally Posted by impolite

native americans can look at where they're from and know it's there, but since it's been seized they can't exactly go back and reclaim it. africa is still predominantly governed and inhabited by african people. much of it has not been developed beyond its original culture and customs. african americans can get in touch with it any old time. but it's most common in people who were born in and raised on american values to not really care about another country, or have the personal strength to endeavour surviving in one besides the one they know best. and this logic, in the case of native americans, seems grossly understated by crayzwayzZzz

...african americans can go back where though? you fail to realize that africans don't really care too much for blacks born in america. even if we skip past that factor we still wouldn't know exactly where to go to. it's not as easy as you think. not to say that it would be easy for native americans either.

and who said i'm not sympathetic towards another culture struggling to survive? no one's lose or fight is greater than another persons. so i'm not saying that the africans turned american slaves is a greater lose than the natives' lose. all of it is very devistating! and true enough, i may have family members of different races, but i can relate to african americans more, so what they went through and what we go through today will have a deeper impact. it has nothing to do with living in america.. that's an entirely different conversation right there! lol ...and i believe if i'm in america then i'm in the right country to think about the natives. ;)

Originally Posted by Christ

Anyways..I will never by into some ole "act this way" in the neigborhood type of garbage. You can act the way you please. Their are laws in place if you go over board.

Freedom of speech and expression in this country is your right. You dont even have to earn it. Kind of like 97% of the poeple posting here. Some of us have done our part...the majority havent and never will. That is the disconnect. I wish at a certain age evrybody had to enlist in some branch of the military, that way they have earned their keep, and I could possibly respect them on even ground.

Exactly! True enough, I don't want someone blasting music at 5 in the morning right before I have to wake up for work, but I'm not down for people adjusting to my lifestyle just to please me. Hell, I figure if someone wants to pay a bunch of money for some property then they can do whatever they please with it, just don't mess up my lawn.

I don't know about joining the military, but everyone has a right to their own opinion. lol I kind of feel like minorities don't have to prove anything for this country, but that's another story.

Originally Posted by Boogiε

What rules?
If your going to be ignorant about "the rules" you don't deserve
to live in a nice "uppity community". I mean seriously if you're going to be doing
drug deal, blasting music at 3 in the morning, yelling and screaming at all hours. You
don't deserve to live in a nice community. And your better off staying in an another community. And honestly I don't blame people for moving when blacks move into a neighborhood especially if they're doing the stuff I said above, because once you get
a couple loud obnoxious people in a neighborhood house values start to decline. And that's fact. And I would much rather look after my interest money wise then be friendly.


I just re-read what I typed..
Comes off sort of racist.

I am not a racist, racism is a crime, and crime is for black people..



AYO!

..yes that was really racist. way to go! now i can't even take your comment seriously.

[8th]

Can I have some examples as to what you are talking about when you say black people that move to "white" neighborhoods have to "play by the rules"

What do you mean? How do they have to "play by the rules" more than a white, or hispanic, or asian family that moves into the same neighborhood? What "rules" are you talking about?

[CrayzWayz]

Originally Posted by 8th

Can I have some examples as to what you are talking about when you say black people that move to "white" neighborhoods have to "play by the rules"

What do you mean? How do they have to "play by the rules" more than a white, or hispanic, or asian family that moves into the same neighborhood? What "rules" are you talking about?

okay.. to explain, i'm not asian, hispanic or white, so i can only speak for me and mine. but all that aside, we'll just act like we live in a perfect world and the possibility of people pre-judging is slim to none.

okay so, what i meant is having to conform your lifestyle to fit those of your neighbors and.. AND sometimes, JUST sometimes, those oh so lovely guidelines can be the absolute most ridiculous things on earth. In other words, you lose a sense of identity, plain and simple. But I guess all order is a must.............................................. .maybe.