Duke Rape Hoax

[8th]

The district attorney faces disbarment. Do you think that is enough? Do you think he should be brought up on charges for pursuing a case in which he knew the defendants were innocent. He exploited the sitatuion in order to get reelected. Also, should the durrum dirtbag [the stripper] be brought up on charges for falsely accusing these guys and putting them through hell for no reason?

[20/20vis]

He should be disbarred, and the lacrosse players should sue him into bankruptcy. They've had their names dragged through the mud for absolutely no reason. The DA used this case, and played up racial undertones to garner sympathy for the victim and get himself elected for the position. It's disgusting, and makes a mockery of the justice system. Those boys also deserve an apology from clowns like Al for blowing this whole situation into a black vs white conflict, and assuming guilt on the word of a freakin' stripper. Damn, have some common sense...but that's a story for another thread...

[Christ]

It is unfortunate. No argument there.

But why would AL Sharpton need to apologize for being mis-lead by the D.A.?

Based off how the DA presented the case...The majority in America believed it was a good chance there was foul play.

Do we blame CNN for covering stories and having an opinion based off what is believed to be the facts of the case?

You targeting Al Sharpton/Rev Jesse Jackson in every thread is indeed racist...because you have yet to target anybody other than black political leaders, when there are plenty of Caucasions that wear the same hat.

Was there EVER any talk about O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson being vendicated in the media?

Anybody apologize to these people after they were found innicent of what they were being accused?

Paula Zane?
Bill Oreily?
CNN?

...Hell No.......Did OJ Simpson recieve a fair Civil Trial ??

Abosolutely ..Not.

Theres alot of border line racist views here and people try to cover that up. But then say "im not raciist , I just have a difference in opinion". That would be true if , your views werent always different when it comes to Blacks..............Look at all the threads....The same people with different views on topics about race..always side against Blacks.

Coincidence?

I have a hard time believing that.

[20/20vis]

^^ You're right, there are politicians of every race who do end up doing the same thing. My problem with Sharpton in this case is he used the fact that it was young, upper-class white men who were accused of abusing a black woman. Race should've never been an issue in this case, yet he went down there and used the case to gain momentum for his cause. And, anyone who tried to look at this case objectively could see that it was bogus from the start. My problem is the fact that the reputation of a few young men has been damaged, and there's no one out there to make them feel vindicated. Sharpton used the case for his gain, and is nowhere to be found to comment on this case now that the obvious, correct judgement has come down.

[Christ]

Thas not true at all. Couldnt be farther from the truth. He released statements on his on radio station as soon as this was released. Also appeared on CNN expressing his dissapointments on how the DA handle this case and the grief caused to these young men and there reputations.

You really need to know what you talking about before making judgements on things your obviously not aware of. What exactly does Sharpton have to gain by any of this by the way?

People come to him and Rev Jackson....because of the platform they are able to speak on. Stop acting like they target people for some hidden agenda. Neither of these guys is running for an office. What kinda political gain is here?

[8th]

Originally Posted by Christ

You targeting Al Sharpton/Rev Jesse Jackson in every thread is indeed racist...because you have yet to target anybody other than black political leaders, when there are plenty of Caucasions that wear the same hat.

The reason there are two threads [not every thread] talking about the two racists sharpton & jackson, is because THEY ARE IN THE NEWS. They have been in the news lately, and in this forum people talk about the news. difficult concept to grasp for someone like yourself.

Originally Posted by Christ

Was there EVER any talk about O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson being vendicated in the media?

Anybody apologize to these people after they were found innicent of what they were being accused?

are you fucking kidding me? do you really believe oj & michael jackson are innocent?! LOL. No one appologized because they were guilty. you really REALLY think OJ didnt do it? if so, wow.

Originally Posted by Christ

Thas not true at all. Couldnt be farther from the truth. He released statements on his on radio station as soon as this was released. Also appeared on CNN expressing his dissapointments on how the DA handle this case and the grief caused to these young men and there reputations.

He knew from the beginning they did not rape that whore. Everyone who looked at the case knew it was trumped up nonsense. He can express his fake 'disappointment' all he wants. He knew they were innocent, yet whipped the community into a black vs. white feeling all so he could get his name in the news.

Originally Posted by Christ

You really need to know what you talking about before making judgements on things your obviously not aware of. What exactly does Sharpton have to gain by any of this by the way?

People come to him and Rev Jackson....because of the platform they are able to speak on. Stop acting like they target people for some hidden agenda. Neither of these guys is running for an office. What kinda political gain is here?

Its funny you told 20/20 he should really know what hes talking about before saying things, and then you say "Neither of these guys is running for an office." Al sharpton has run for president the last several races. They make a living creating fake 'outrage' over 'racial' situations that are not racial in anyway. They are shake down artists. They extort business for money in order to "stop a protest." They are horrible people exploiting situation and hurting race relations to line their pockets. IMO

[Christ]

You dont want people insulting people but you do the majority of the insulting LMAO

Look at your comments directed at me.

Its clear you have a racist view to me. Thats just My Opinion tho.

Wont lose any sleep over it.

[Noggah]

this shit was so bogus... im not gonna get into the other argument... but the fact that the DA played shady from the get go was fucked up... the fact that DUKE believed a stripper before their own esteemed students.... shit was all fucked up from the get go...

[20/20vis]

Originally Posted by Christ

It is unfortunate. No argument there.

But why would AL Sharpton need to apologize for being mis-lead by the D.A.?

Based off how the DA presented the case...The majority in America believed it was a good chance there was foul play.

Do we blame CNN for covering stories and having an opinion based off what is believed to be the facts of the case?

You targeting Al Sharpton/Rev Jesse Jackson in every thread is indeed racist...because you have yet to target anybody other than black political leaders, when there are plenty of Caucasions that wear the same hat.

Was there EVER any talk about O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson being vendicated in the media?

Anybody apologize to these people after they were found innicent of what they were being accused?

Paula Zane?
Bill Oreily?
CNN?

...Hell No.......Did OJ Simpson recieve a fair Civil Trial ??

Abosolutely ..Not.

Theres alot of border line racist views here and people try to cover that up. But then say "im not raciist , I just have a difference in opinion". That would be true if , your views werent always different when it comes to Blacks..............Look at all the threads....The same people with different views on topics about race..always side against Blacks.

Coincidence?

I have a hard time believing that.

Damn anyone who brings up Michael mother-fukin Jackson and OJ Simpson up to talk about the concept of justice really gives up any shred of credibility they might have had.

Originally Posted by Christ

Thas not true at all. Couldnt be farther from the truth. He released statements on his on radio station as soon as this was released. Also appeared on CNN expressing his dissapointments on how the DA handle this case and the grief caused to these young men and there reputations.

You really need to know what you talking about before making judgements on things your obviously not aware of. What exactly does Sharpton have to gain by any of this by the way?

People come to him and Rev Jackson....because of the platform they are able to speak on. Stop acting like they target people for some hidden agenda. Neither of these guys is running for an office. What kinda political gain is here?

Lots of it. And lots of financial gain from people that want to be told how they think.

[8th]

Originally Posted by Christ

Look at your comments directed at me.

Its clear you have a racist view to me. Thats just My Opinion tho.

what comments exactly? and i dont even know what race you are, so how could i possibly be racist against you.

[Queenspittah]

Originally Posted by 8th

The district attorney faces disbarment. Do you think that is enough?

Wow you stick up for Imus's abuse of his position by using racial and sexual slurs to describe a mostly black group young women the same age as these Duke players. But say that Nyfong should be not only fired like Imus but brought up on charges because he abused his power by slandering these young men as "rapists" when he wasn't 100% sure. Imus is responsible for the same infringement os false slander why shouldn't he be sued for it?? Because his comments racially offensive to blacks...and Nyfongs was morally offensive to white men??

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

He should be disbarred, and the lacrosse players should sue him into bankruptcy.

Yet another comment from an Imus supporter stating how Nyfong should be punished to the furthest extent for what he did to those white boys.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

They've had their names dragged through the mud for absolutely no reason.

N look at how these ballplayers have been scrutinized for being offended at what Imus said. 8th even said it was "made up outrage"...like they weren't spoken ill of.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

The DA used this case, and played up racial undertones to garner sympathy for the victim and get himself elected for the position.

He prolly did...n Imus did it for publicity...why is he not wrong.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

Those boys also deserve an apology from clowns like Al for blowing this whole situation into a black vs white conflict, and assuming guilt on the word of a freakin' stripper.

On that note Al did apologize but he was just as misled as the rest of the people were by Nyfong...and to be fair(I live 10 min away from Duke)...the case wasn't being handled properly at first and when the black community saw that they spoke on it and Nyfong took it and ran with it.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

^^ You're right, there are politicians of every race who do end up doing the same thing. My problem with Sharpton in this case is he used the fact that it was young, upper-class white men who were accused of abusing a black woman. Race should've never been an issue in this case, yet he went down there and used the case to gain momentum for his cause.

Wrong, race was already and issue before Al came here! This is North Carolina...the SOUTH of course race was a big deal in KKK country...where confederate flags fly freely and abundantly. And when the case wasn't being handled as a normal rape case blacks said "wait a minute whether she's a victim or not proceedures should sitll be the same." Then Al came and Nyfong saw an opportunity to gain on all the publicity.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

And, anyone who tried to look at this case objectively could see that it was bogus from the start.

How...?? I mean all you heard was "a stripper was allegedly raped during a party by 4 Duke LAX teammates." Unless you automatically side with athletes how could you know it was bogus. Just because she's a stripper she couldn't have been raped?? Even if she agreed to take her clothes off for money she could have not agreed to have sex and been taken advantage of. It wasn't so cut and dry...come on now...I live down here and got a first hand.

Originally Posted by 20/20vis

My problem is the fact that the reputation of a few young men has been damaged, and there's no one out there to make them feel vindicated.

Oh please...these guys have made buku money off of interveiws, book deals (even the coach wrote a book), have gone on to graduate from Duke and have moved on with their lives as the innocent victims who were falsely accused. No one here in Durham looks at these guys as rapists..one still lives here as a matter of fact...can't be that bad for his reputation.LOL It's funny how they never went to trial but you make it seem like they need to be vindicated. They were NEVER convicted...Only suspects!!! Wow now courts can't even suspect a person and be WRONG!? That's why they are called "judges" because judgement has to be made based on the case.

Originally Posted by 8th

what comments exactly? and i dont even know what race you are, so how could i possibly be racist against you.

C'mon 8th...you speak on Imus like he did nothing wrong by calling those girls "nappy headed hoes. You still speak respectfully of him but you come on here and call Al and Jesse "racists" like they've done something so worse than Imus to be called that n Imus not be, and then you say that the "outrage (surrounding Imus' comment) is made up" while the Duke LAX players should sue and all that when they weren't convicted...did no jail time and were called something they were not: rapists. One group of only white kids were called "rapists" and one predominantly black group of kids were called "nappy headed hoes" and who do you side for...??? The racism is obvious...one every thread on race you post in you take the WHITE side rather than the RIGHT side. I'm for justice for all. Meaning Imus was wrong and should suffer the consequences...Nyfong was wrong and should suffer the consequences as well. PERIOD. There is no moral difference..they both abused their power and slandered innocent people in doing so.

[groad]

Originally Posted by Christ

It is unfortunate. No argument there.

But why would AL Sharpton need to apologize for being mis-lead by the D.A.?

Based off how the DA presented the case...The majority in America believed it was a good chance there was foul play.

Do we blame CNN for covering stories and having an opinion based off what is believed to be the facts of the case?

You targeting Al Sharpton/Rev Jesse Jackson in every thread is indeed racist...because you have yet to target anybody other than black political leaders, when there are plenty of Caucasions that wear the same hat.

Was there EVER any talk about O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson being vendicated in the media?

Anybody apologize to these people after they were found innicent of what they were being accused?

Paula Zane?
Bill Oreily?
CNN?

...Hell No.......Did OJ Simpson recieve a fair Civil Trial ??

Abosolutely ..Not.

Theres alot of border line racist views here and people try to cover that up. But then say "im not raciist , I just have a difference in opinion". That would be true if , your views werent always different when it comes to Blacks..............Look at all the threads....The same people with different views on topics about race..always side against Blacks.

Coincidence?

I have a hard time believing that.

great point, bang on

[8th]

^stop making 3 word replies. Make serious replies with a bit more substance or I will delete them. This is your warning. Pick a different forum to up your post count.

Originally Posted by Queenspittah

C'mon 8th...you speak on Imus like he did nothing wrong by calling those girls "nappy headed hoes. You still speak respectfully of him but you come on here and call Al and Jesse "racists" like they've done something so worse than Imus to be called that n Imus not be, and then you say that the "outrage (surrounding Imus' comment) is made up" while the Duke LAX players should sue and all that when they weren't convicted...did no jail time and were called something they were not: rapists. One group of only white kids were called "rapists" and one predominantly black group of kids were called "nappy headed hoes" and who do you side for...??? The racism is obvious...one every thread on race you post in you take the WHITE side rather than the RIGHT side. I'm for justice for all. Meaning Imus was wrong and should suffer the consequences...Nyfong was wrong and should suffer the consequences as well. PERIOD. There is no moral difference..they both abused their power and slandered innocent people in doing so.

so there is no difference between a entertainer making a mean spirited bad attempt at a joke, and a DA knowly misrepresenting the facts, holding back evidence that would prove the accused innocent, whipping up serious racial tentions and generally railroad 3 young men in order to get reelected? and again, im not speaking "respectfully" of imus, or excusing what he said. So please stop trying to claim that i am. This DA should be sued for everything he has & put in prison. The durham dirty bag should also be put in prison for her false accusations. Its laughable and ridiculous to compare what the DA did to imus.

[Royal Rapptress]

Originally Posted by 8th

so there is no difference between a entertainer making a mean spirited bad attempt at a joke, and a DA knowly misrepresenting the facts,...

Originally Posted by Queenspittah

There is no moral difference..they both abused their power and slandered innocent people in doing so.

I said MORALLY there is no difference...of course the situations don't match detail for detail...!Duh..c'mon now 8th the possibility of the exact event happening the exact same way all over again are slim to none. I said that morally they BOTH abused thier power by slandering innocent children. Bottom line that's what they both did. N if you aren't defending Imus then why are you downplaying what he said. He made a racial and sexual slur against a group of young women...how is that funny or even taken as a joke. Would you take it was joke if it was your mom/sis/daughter? Honestly..no BS to take up for Imus like he's just a good ol guy who made a mistake....please at 60 he knows all too well the exact language that kept blacks oppresed...he know what he was saying and though he thought it was funny it was racist and sexist and slanderous..no mistake about it...8th...stop downplaying Imus slander.

[groad]

Originally Posted by 8th

^stop making 3 word replies. Make serious replies with a bit more substance or I will delete them. This is your warning. Pick a different forum to up your post count.



so there is no difference between a entertainer making a mean spirited bad attempt at a joke, and a DA knowly misrepresenting the facts, holding back evidence that would prove the accused innocent, whipping up serious racial tentions and generally railroad 3 young men in order to get reelected? and again, im not speaking "respectfully" of imus, or excusing what he said. So please stop trying to claim that i am. This DA should be sued for everything he has & put in prison. The durham dirty bag should also be put in prison for her false accusations. Its laughable and ridiculous to compare what the DA did to imus.

sorry i didnt realize it was a huge deal, i'll be sure to not do it anymore, once again my appologies