Democrats !! (Hillary Clinton vs Barrak Obama)

[Christ]

Respectfully,


Is Hilary Clinton really the nominee of choice?
She has stated she is taken this "personally". When this isn't a personal process. This process is supposed to be for the "people" by the "people". A Democratic process in place for what the majority of Americans "want". Not what "she" wants. She is deviding the party saying "Obama is not qualified" or saying he is just a "speech" maker. It completely underminds the party as a whole. Lets say he does get the nomination, what happens then?? Is she going to say "Oh..I was only kidding !" ?? How do you then , back the candidate you said was not qualified to run the country?? Why can't more Americans see that? Why not just express your views and policies you would endorse? Doesnt she understand how belittles voters that may have voted for Obama? Does she honestly think her campaign strategy will bridge the votes she has recieved - over to Obama if he was to win the Nomination?? Sen. Clinton is dividing the party. Her criticizing Nadar for being a spoiler , is the pot calling the kettle Black.



What are your views?

[Vick Slate]

simple

Obama '08

[impolite]

perhaps she does not think it in america's best interest to vote him in. such potential concern doesn't seem altogether sinister.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by impolite

perhaps she does not think it in america's best interest to vote him in. such potential concern doesn't seem altogether sinister.

Sinister?..No..Cynical? ..Yes

I have to disagree..souly because she has stated repeatedly at debates, Both Obama and herself were 2 great candidates for the nomination. Which, is a complete contradiction from what she' is saying on the campaign trail.

Hopefully this 3 headed monster loses Texas ......That happens ..its over ..period

[8th]

Originally Posted by Christ

Lets say he does get the nomination, what happens then?? Is she going to say "Oh..I was only kidding !" ?? How do you then , back the candidate you said was not qualified to run the country??

Uh, yeah. Thats exactly what will happen. That is what ALWAYS happens. On Both Sides.

Originally Posted by Christ

Why can't more Americans see that?

Because the majority doesnt pay attention.

Originally Posted by Christ

Why not just express your views and policies you would endorse?

Because. Thats not what the dull public reacts to. They react to sound clips and mean-nothing speechs [like the majority of barrack hussein obamas] where they say things [that are insulting to the intelligence of anyone with any] like 'im about change' or 'ill fix the problem'

They dont talk about there policy positions, or thier concrete plans for the future, because they dont have any.


[And barrack hussein obama is NOT qualified and is just a speech maker]

[impolite]

i think you confuse cynical with critical. but yes, that's a bit contradictory of her. still doesn't seem like dividing though. i don't favor any of them however.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by 8th

Uh, yeah. Thats exactly what will happen. That is what ALWAYS happens. On Both Sides.




Because the majority doesnt pay attention.




Because. Thats not what the dull public reacts to. They react to sound clips and mean-nothing speechs [like the majority of barrack hussein obamas] where they say things [that are insulting to the intelligence of anyone with any] like 'im about change' or 'ill fix the problem'

They dont talk about there policy positions, or thier concrete plans for the future, because they dont have any.


[And barrack hussein obama is NOT qualified and is just a speech maker]

If you are not aware of the policies he has endorsed or pledged..That just means your ignorant. You just don't know. Do you think the media is going to play a speech on his policy plans ..you are just ignorant. Do you think the majority of Americans know what a subsidy is?? If you do ..you are wrong. You can find just about all his policy plans outlined on his website. They have all been released for public review.


Have you watched any live debates?? Put your mouse down for a second ..get outside..watch a television show....take a shower man...brush your teeth ..good grief.

Originally Posted by impolite

i think you confuse cynical with critical. but yes, that's a bit contradictory of her. still doesn't seem like dividing though. i don't favor any of them however.

Do you know what cynical means? Because thats exactly why she is saying what she has said. Its a campaign..a race...they are competing ..champ

Say sorry..

[impolite]

don't patronize me. cynicism is closer to biased pessimism than it is to fair critique. did you entertain perhaps briefly that she might say it to warn america that he is unreliable, or directly insist that she's simply trying to slander his good and until-recently unknown name? neglecting to consider all possibilities before concluding epitomizes cynicism well enough.

[ducksauce88]

neither of them

[Christ]

Originally Posted by impolite

don't patronize me. cynicism is closer to biased pessimism than it is to fair critique. did you entertain perhaps briefly that she might say it to warn america that he is unreliable, or directly insist that she's simply trying to slander his good and until-recently unknown name? neglecting to consider all possibilities before concluding epitomizes cynicism well enough.

I do understand your point. However, your missing some caveats, statistics, and Clinton tradition in your somewhat astronomical equasion.

1. If Obama is the Democratic Nominee Hillary will support him (BLUF).
2. She is down in every poll. (BLUF)
3. Its a race (competition) to become the nominee...everything is cynical , has to be in order secure the nomination and/or pursue undecided voters .

The contrast is very different when running against different parties , which you will see in the upcoming race between the Democratic & Republican nominee.

Im just as cynical in the debate we are having in this thread, as you are.