Bush should be Impeached?

[ethompson1014]

It is interesting to me that the presidential candidates, both Democrat & Republican are bashing what Bush is doing in the oval office. That is amazing, because if they all believe that, & if the president has reached the the lowest poll rankings, & millions voice their disguist over the war, why are we trying to impeach him????

[delphidd]

Good point... of course so many of those people who cry "impeach!" on the "Hill" have absolutely no business talking in the first place. At least we have a president who has the balls to stand up for what he believes is right; I mean, that is why we elected him in the first place! Finally when we have a president--who isn't wishy-washy and changes with every whim of congress or public opinion--who does something that causes us to become a little uncomfortable, we want to toss him out on his ear!

[Nomad Toad]

idiot..

its his job to do what the people want not whatever he feels like..

[8th]

Originally Posted by Nomad Toad

its his job to do what the people want...

Not really. He is elected to run the nation. He is the leader, and the leader does not always do what is popular. Your manager at work doesn't do whatever the consensus of the employees or customers is, they do what is best for the company. At the same time, you have to keep in mind what the majority of the people want. You cant just do WHATEVER the hell you want and say fuck the populous. I just wanted to point that at.

[Warrent4Arrest]

cant believe know1 hasent sniped him yet..i wish he was impeached..hes doin a horrible job

[8th]

Originally Posted by Shonjohn1000

I served in Iraq

I appreciate your service.

Originally Posted by Warrent4Arrest

cant believe know1 hasent sniped him yet..i wish he was impeached..hes doin a horrible job

What has he done that is an impeachable offense? Dont strain yourself, because the answer is nothing. You may disagree with his policies, or have many other political/personal reasons you dislike him. Being disliked is not an impeachable offense. And I'd seriously like you to run down the issues that he is doing horrible on. And not talking points like, 'war in iraq' or 'attack on citizens', come with a real argument, with real criticism.

[dasasq]

He has violated the rights of POWs by creating unconstitutional rules for them.

Originally Posted by 8th

I appreciate your service.



What has he done that is an impeachable offense? Dont strain yourself, because the answer is nothing. You may disagree with his policies, or have many other political/personal reasons you dislike him. Being disliked is not an impeachable offense. And I'd seriously like you to run down the issues that he is doing horrible on. And not talking points like, 'war in iraq' or 'attack on citizens', come with a real argument, with real criticism.

[8th]

Well considering there are no 'Prisoners of War' because we didnt not declare war, Im going to assume your talking about detainees in Gitmo and other military prisons. They are also not protected by the U.S. Constitution seeing as they are not U.S. Citizens [the majority]

again, give me specific examples. You just regurgitated a talking point.

[daveo626]

Every President of the United States who has been responsible for conceding a war has recieved the same critizems. Look at the record. This includes Lincoln, Wilson, Rosevellt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson,Bush Sr, and Bush Jr. But lets remember. "President Bush dont care about black people".

[avenger hope]

too late to impeach him.

i doubt dick cheney would do any better anyways.

[8th]

^Thats kinda funny that you mention that, because I dont think alot of these dim witted people that scream about impeachment realize Cheney would take over. But again, its a stupid argument because Bush has not commited an impeachable offense.

[Dj Felix]

Bush is an idiot plain and simple, the reason I don't think there is a huge push for his impeachment is exactly what 8th said, Cheney would take over, and Cheney is an even bigger piece of shit.

So let's all just stop stating the obvious and just wait for '08 when O'Bama get's elected and finally fixes Bush's fuck-ups...

P.S. Don't vote Clinton, she's a dirty whore who is pro censorship in the media... (i.e. Hip-Hop)

[Fero Blaque]

I think it's easy to point your finger towards Bush, the whole Iraq situation Is stressing for everyone..simple as that. He's not the only one making decissions, basically people say things FOR him and he's like the US spokesman doing what's told.

It's not a sole decission not to retreat from Iraq, you can blame anyone from FBI to the CIA to the White House..stop thinking it's that simple and that one man runs a country. These are no medieval times, Bush Is put under pressure by sub-groups that can make a decission for him. It's stupid to just blame mister president, he's supposed to be responsible and he's held responsible but It's like nobody realizes what he must be going through. Being sent back and forth, doing good for the people Is his main priority but different influencial people you and I have never seen or heard about disagree with certain decissions and just make It happen their way.

And that's how It works, the president Is just the man taking the fall. While others pull strings and are hardly held responsible for the consequences.

[Phonix]

Originally Posted by Dj Felix

Bush is an idiot plain and simple, the reason I don't think there is a huge push for his impeachment is exactly what 8th said, Cheney would take over, and Cheney is an even bigger piece of shit.

So let's all just stop stating the obvious and just wait for '08 when O'Bama get's elected and finally fixes Bush's fuck-ups...

P.S. Don't vote Clinton, she's a dirty whore who is pro censorship in the media... (i.e. Hip-Hop)

With regards to impeaching Bush, you're completley missing the point as 8th keeps pointing out.

[efgeesus]

Originally Posted by 8th

I appreciate your service.



What has he done that is an impeachable offense? Dont strain yourself, because the answer is nothing. You may disagree with his policies, or have many other political/personal reasons you dislike him. Being disliked is not an impeachable offense. And I'd seriously like you to run down the issues that he is doing horrible on. And not talking points like, 'war in iraq' or 'attack on citizens', come with a real argument, with real criticism.

Read up.

There are countless things he could be impeached on.
It seems you do not even know what the term means:

Impeachable offenses (wikipedia)


In the United States, impeachment can occur both at the federal and state level. At the federal level, different standards apply when the impeachment involves a member of the executive branch or of the judiciary (and dispute currently exists over the use of impeachment against members of the legislative branch). For the executive branch, only those who have allegedly committed "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" may be impeached. Although treason and bribery are obvious, the Constitution is silent on what constitutes a "high crime or misdemeanor." Several commentators have suggested that Congress alone may decide for itself what constitutes an impeachable offense. In 1970, then-Representative Gerald R. Ford defined the criteria as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." Four years later, Ford would assume the Presidency, following the resignation of President Richard Nixon. (Nixon resigned following a committee vote to approve impeachment proceedings, but before actual impeachment by the full House.)
The standard for impeachment among the judiciary is much broader. Article III of the Constitution states that judges remain in office "during good behavior," implying that Congress may remove a judge for bad behavior. The standard for impeachment of members of the legislature is/would be the same as the Executive standard, "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."



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unlawfully sanctioning the invasion of a country without UN backing, AND lying about the reason behind it - impeachable


bribes from various companies and general crooked practices - impeachable

those are just two that spring to mind. and you only need one.

so to say there are no grounds for impeachment is just ludicrous.


and delphidd, read up.

your statement came across as totally ignorant, and is misguided as hell. if you support Bush then I won't even bother arguing wiht you, cos those that do can't have any sense in them.