Are Bullies the REAL reason behind school massacres???

[Royal Rapptress]

The latest news on Va. Tech matches what I've seen on other school killings..and that's the fact that many classmates admit that the killers were bullied and taunted daily. How much of a part does this play in school rampages and what's the stopping point in teasing someone. Is it only bullying if it's physical or is there a such thing as verbal bullying that kids should be suspended or expelled for so that victims don't feel the need to retaliate violently once they reached their boiling point. As a kid we just faught and whoever lost got picked on for losing for a while n then it was over. BUT WHAT'S TOO FAR??

[Da Source]

Yeah.. sorry but you can't blame bullies... cuz shit it's not like you graduate from school and ALAKAZAM bullies suddenly disappear.

I see bullying amongst adults in all types of social circles all the time.

People cut in line... people shout to talk over people... and how many times have you seen some dude with his girl try to jump hard on some scrawny nigga...

"you bumped into my girl dawg"

Yeah but dude's 70 lb's... try that shit wit me nigga and bofe ya'll gettin slapped.


So no, you can't blame "bullies". Kids are cruel... deal with it. Some of our best poets, actors, geniuses went to school dirty and got teased constantly, even abused at home. Did they pull a Columbine? No they sucked it up and did what they had to do to succeed.

Stop looking for answers when the answers clear.
Some people just aren't mentally tough enough for reality.

Take ya faggot ass to some desolate place and make friends with the animals if you on some rampage type shit. The real world is for real people... not sissies and pussies who lack back-bone, courage and determination.


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[Royal Rapptress]

Yeah but I'm not talking about an INCIDENT of bullying or adult situations, I'm talkin every single day some kid gets his butt kicked at school or his personal items taken or his clothes vandalised, or his social position thrown in his face, or jokes about his finacial situation....everyday! That's gotta be hard for any adult but a for CHILD?? A child doesn't have the same skills to deal with these types of offensive in a productive manner. So one day when it all comes out this kid flips and takes out all the people who caused and laughed at his pain...no one is responsible for his mental unstableness?? That's like saying a kid who was raped and grows up to be a rapist has nothing to do with his rape in the past...IMO. There's gotta be a point where it's crossing the line...especially among kids.

[Da Source]

No...
that's called human nature.
Only the strong survive... I remember getting teased cuz I had glasses and knobby knees... other kids automatically thought they could kick my ass... I had a few growth spurts and suddenly I was the big man on the monkey bars.

That's not even the issue tho.. cuz size isn't everything.
Also, if we blame bullies for when kids japp out and murk niggas, who do we blame for kids having Napoleon complexes?

I'm sure we've all seen short guys and girls talk mounds and mounds of shit and attempt to fight people way bigger then them..

If someone who's obviously a weaker physical specimen can have such a gladiator mentality... then there's nobody to blame when some faggot brings his dad's gun collection to school... other then the faggot who did it.

Tough Shit.

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[Nomad Toad]

yeah..
not just the scholl bully..but the society as a bully..
if you dont give a man room to grow and do what his instincts tell him to do
then eventually hell explode..
look at human society as a zoo... when an animal is kept in bad conditions it reacts in a way that we can measure and study and document.
Using these techniques we devise ways to let the animal live happily in an otherwise uncomfortable environment, behind bars..

Now the human animal is trapped in by invisible bars dictated by society theres no escape but some of us live with full knowledge that we are being contained, controlled..
Order becomes a form of abuse.. We no longer react to our instincts but must constantly adapt to fit the rules of the situation..
Some of us are less adaptable than others and some poeples possition is alot more comfortable.

A person can only carry so much weight before something breaks..

Fear and anger should be fleeting emotions a neurological responce to the perception of danger...
But they got us livin feelin in danger most of the time, they got us feelin angry most of the time
Subconscious programming through media (including loss of revultion to violence due to some hip hop and violent movies)< yeah i said it>
is changing us...

theres so much more psychological bullshit but i see it as this..

YOu keep sayin someones bad or sick or different eventually theyll believe it.

[azy]

i think the real reason behind school massacres is fucked up children, who like to play the victim and find it too easy to get hold of heavy weaponry.

[Onslawt]

fuck that. the kids that do that shit are faggots. straight up faggots. no excuses.

[Baller_408]

bullys contribute to making the "typical" killer by making them feel even more excluded, but the main factor is a mental health issue, not necessarily peers

[Shade UK]

I Think It Started Off With Bullying. And He Must Of Given Up Hope With Socialising.

Apparently He Shut Himself Out From Everyone. Maybe A Physcological Fear Of Rejection Or Something. Some Of The Tech Kids Said They Tried Saying High And He'd Just Ignore Them.

Fact Is, He Shut Himself Out Probably Due To Mental Issues. Which Must Of Spiralled Down To The Point Where He Felt Like Such A Social Outcast That Life Wasn't Worth Living Anymore. And Taking It Out On His Classmates May Not Have Been Targeting People Bullying Him. But Just Taking Out His Frustrations On Them.

Like A Bully Would To A Weaker Kid. Anyway That Kid Was Fucked Up. I Personally Think Bullying Our Outcasting Was Definately A Factor. Especially If It Was At A Young Vulnerable Age.

There Was Kid Like That At My School. We Used To Joke That He Would Come In And Massacre Us Because He Followed Such Trends.

I Think This Is A Prime Example That People Should Reach Out To People Who Have Been Socially Outcasted. Not Just Because They May Kill Everyone Around You (A Rarity Against The Odds)

But Because His Phsycological State Of Mind As A Child Will Stay With Him For The Rest Of His Life.

[tenma]

Originally Posted by Malphunxion

fuck that. the kids that do that shit are faggots. straight up faggots. no excuses.

The language is another issue...

Anyway, I think, when int comes down to it, it's the killer/abuser that needs to be held responsible. However, I agree that there are several factors that can lead someone to commit a horrific act. Part of it could be bullying. Part of it could be a feeling of unwantedness. Part of it could be a feeling of constant disrespect. But ultimately, these are all things that can't possibly justify physical harm towards innocent civillians. There are so many kids who get bullied each year and still find a way to remain positive or find non-violent, cathartic ways of releasing such anger.

I feel like schools seriously need to start cracking down on bullying, but at the same time, it's impossible to catch it all. Person A gets bullied, but doesn't tell the school officials that they got bullied because they fear losing respect in the eyes of the rest of their peers. In some cases, the anger becomes internalized for so long that something like Columbine happens. It's hard to tell if this is the same case for Cho (his video seemed to indicate that he had more of an issue with affluent people than really a problem with being bullied), but in any case, the blame still ultimately falls on the person who refuses to find help, who refuses to confront the issue, and therefore takes innocent students down with him in a fit of rage.

[Nomad Toad]

abuse breeds a abuse..
simple fact.

hate breeds hate..

[tenma]

Originally Posted by Nomad Toad

abuse breeds a abuse..
simple fact.

hate breeds hate..

But what's important is how you diffuse or counteract that hate. If you cut me off while driving down the street, that doesn't give me a right to take a tire iron to your forehead.

[Noggah]

its more based on a persons self-esteem and self-image... Bullies can help lower these...but the truth is... the only person that can affect how you feel is you... you can choose to be angry or hateful or happy n loving... it doesnt matter how much someone does something to you... its still your choice... usually things like this or suicides happen because of females....a guys first love doesnt love him anymore... n they start gettin all these thoughts... bottling them up can lead to a massive explosion... resulting in extreme actions such as a school shooting...or suicide.... but you cant blame anything solely on one thing... its usually a mixture of a couple of problems...and the more u think evil thoughts... the more likely you are to accept and perform them as well...

[8th]

everyone gets bullied at some point. but 99.99% of us dont pick up a gun and massacre a bunch of people. They difference is, some people are just CRAZY. or EVIL. or UNBALANCED. Trying to find an explanation for things like this is pointless.

[Phascism]

Originally Posted by Noggah

its more based on a persons self-esteem and self-image... Bullies can help lower these...but the truth is... the only person that can affect how you feel is you... you can choose to be angry or hateful or happy n loving... it doesnt matter how much someone does something to you... its still your choice... usually things like this or suicides happen because of females....a guys first love doesnt love him anymore... n they start gettin all these thoughts... bottling them up can lead to a massive explosion... resulting in extreme actions such as a school shooting...or suicide.... but you cant blame anything solely on one thing... its usually a mixture of a couple of problems...and the more u think evil thoughts... the more likely you are to accept and perform them as well...

True indeed. But, It's easy to try to place the blame on bullies, or anybody who an individual feels inflicted pain into their heart. But, there's no one to blame; except the person who actually commited the crime. Because honestly, People wanted their freedom rights; I mean, as far as the government itself. ex - Ammendment Rights. (Just to clear that up.) But we still abuse those rights by arming ourselves with weapons and killing innocent individuals or those we angst verbally & physically, then constantly use mental issues and unwantedness to try and justify and un-just act, why is that? The reason the war is really getting over-looked is not only because it's old & still in effect.. But, because what went on at VA Tech was marked down in History as one of the biggest massacres (someone correct me if i'm wrong) in US HISTORY.. So of course the story itself may be seen as though it is being pressed to much.

Originally Posted by 8th

everyone gets bullied at some point. but 99.99% of us dont pick up a gun and massacre a bunch of people. They difference is, some people are just CRAZY. or EVIL. or UNBALANCED. Trying to find an explanation for things like this is pointless.

I have to say 8th I think 99.99% is an exaggeration family. Seriously, If 99.99% of us didn't pick up guns & massacre people then a majority of these killings in this year alone would not have taken place. But, It always seems as though the excuse behind an act of violence - 'bomb threats, guns in school, school massacres' etc, etc. Is always based on the acts of someone feeling unwanted or secluded. Weird, I know.. lol